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« on: January 11, 2007, 05:43:53 AM »

well the New Year caught many of us by surprise, I first joined HYIPs in November, and took my usual spanking learning that anything goes to those running these programs, lies, fake Docs and votes...

Finally settling in on a few that paid small percentages but compounding over several years turns a $100 into millions.  Yep, on my way to retirement, admins sending emails back almost instantly, phone numbers to call them any time day or night.  I was sure I was locked in for the long run.

and then it happened...

clicked on a link, and it was gone...

another take the money and run scam, they showed Millions in deposits on their main page, very low payouts against the deposits...

one after another they all fell like trees...      Cry


out of 27, 3 remain...

but those three have grown to more than my original deposit, should I cash out and move it to my e-gold account?  Turn it into gold coins and toss it in my mattress?

I went to e-gold...

and it's gone...    tickedoff
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2007, 05:53:54 AM »

Hi Ivaho,

are there any HYIPs that aren't Ponzi?

Do you have a thread anywhere on which ones you do like?   2funny


Now for the big question, I have an invention that just passed the patent search and I'm moving into the next stage, funding.

Is it possible to set up a HYIP backed by reliable programs for a majority of investments that will run for years as the invention moves through production and rollout, with a shared payout at the end for all investors?

Where would you go to put it together safely? 
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2007, 06:46:19 AM »

Where you invested your money exactly?
Please write more details about these 3 programs...
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2007, 06:56:45 AM »

These are the three still running out of the bunch I started with...  I'd give more details but I'm sure most reading here already recognize the names.

http://www.eutradeltd.com/?reffer_id=cl022509

http://www.q-investment.biz/?ref=dave

http://www.denon-priory.com/?ref=Dave
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2007, 08:31:39 AM »

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are there any HYIPs that aren't Ponzi?

Yes, but only small percent (or percent of percent).
Search, read, ask, test, make own DD, read DD from experienced investors, and search these programs with our forum members.
But if you at last find not a ponzi program, it`s just part of the success.
For example, if admin is betting on sports betting market on forex market, it`s possible that he will make a mistake and lost our money. There is a risk involed in this business.
You should be wise of it, before investing money in hyips.

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Do you have a thread anywhere on which ones you do like?

I will show you some interesting threads on this forum, usually admins of these programs are registered here so you have the chance to ask about everything about their business.

I don`t warrant that they are not a ponzies but they have a real chance to be reliable:


Baltic Forex Group
The program is using Neuimex and Marketiva as its brokers and creates an impression of a highly professional business, operated by experienced traders. The targeted profit ranges between 5% to 15% per month, and the company's fee is charged only on the returns produced.

Link to program:
http://money-monitor.com/index.php?page=less5#264
Link to discussion folder:
http://www.money-debate.com/index.php/board,117.0.html
Admin:
http://www.money-debate.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1203




life-holdings.com
Admin has been trading on Betfair's Bet Exchange Market for two years now, on both the Sports Betting and the Games Betting markets. He is using an system, developed by himself, based on patterns, Elliot and Fibonacci cycles.

Link to program:
http://money-monitor.com/index.php?page=less5#262
Link to discussion folder:
http://www.money-debate.com/index.php/topic,1204.0.html
Admin:
http://www.money-debate.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1445




ttinvest
TTI does NOT trade the 3 trillion fashionable forex market (we do have
some knowledge of the fx markets) instead we focus on stock trading only,
applying various strategies outlined in detail on our website.

Link to program:
http://money-monitor.com/index.php?page=less5#184
Link to discussion folder:
http://www.money-debate.com/index.php/topic,1245.0.html
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Infinityshares
They are an online based Investment program and use our funds to trade on the forex market.

Link to program:
http://money-monitor.com/index.php?page=less5#169
Link to discussion folder:
http://www.money-debate.com/index.php/topic,1269.0.html




shadow-hyip
Program is bazed on surebets. A SureBet, or arbitrage bet, is a set of bets where you are sure to win money, irrespective of what the outcome of the event turns out to be. You cannot lose.

Support folder is under construction:
http://www.money-debate.com/index.php/board,154.0.html

Admin:
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Is it possible to set up a HYIP backed by reliable programs for a majority of investments that will run for years as the invention moves through production and rollout, with a shared payout at the end for all investors?

Where would you go to put it together safely?

Yes, why not, it is not something new, it`s just an investment pool.
I guess that you heard about feederfund.
They are investing your money in the programs that have a very high minimum to deposit (like $1000). As you probably know the most programs that they are investing in have some problems with payouts now. So, idea is good but it`s hard to find so good and stable programs, to make a success.


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These are the three still running [...]

q-investment
http://www.q-investment.biz/r.php

Check their rate page,
not paying status on hyipinvestment, I suggest to withdraw all money as fast as you can.


eutradeltd

Read interesting article here about this program:
http://www.money-debate.com/index.php/topic,1276.0.html

My suggestion is to reinvest part of your profit only.
In my opinion they will turn into scam someday.

denon-priory

I have no information about this program, some DD will be appreciated Smiley


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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2007, 08:52:15 AM »

Thank you for all that info, I'll go through and check them all out.

Denon Priory is what gave me the idea of using a HYIP for funding my invention, it is something that if things go well could be on every future automobile in the world.  Everyone that learns of it is interested and the next step is building a complete prototype to move forward with.

until running across this forum, I felt pretty safe with Eurotrade, but I'm sure you already know I have my doubts at this point.  The original plan said to pay one point nine percent 1.9% has paid as low as 0.7% daily.  On one hand I understand trading so feel more comfortable with the reality that they can't guarantee the same profits every day, on the other hand I'm disappointed that what they advertised to lure me in they aren't fulfilling.

The other 2 I'm already whole on so not too worried if they tank, but hope they keep running for years.


What does it take to build a HYIP site, are there any hosts that can guarantee against hackers emptying the trade account?  Is the only real safe way of keeping the funds safe by moving them offline unaccessible from the website?
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2007, 09:10:02 AM »

Hosting service is not so important like a script that is using in hyip.
Hosting service with Ddos attack protection will be necessary when your project will be a very popular. Then you should purchase a dedicated server, but it is an expansive way.

As I wrote, the most important is to using a secure licensed script, disable automatic withdrawal system (using mass-payouts only), and keep your e-gold account safe and secure.

Some solutions:
http://www.money-debate.com/index.php/topic,1290.0.html
http://www.money-debate.com/index.php/topic,1291.0.html

I and my friend are working with new secure hyip script but it is to early to give more details about our project.
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2007, 09:49:53 AM »

in your opinion, what is the best secure Licensed Script?
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2007, 07:30:52 PM »

If you are really interested with secure licensed script please contact with me, I am finalizing my project so you have the chance to be a first customer Smiley

Besides in my opinion the most advanced and highly secure HYIP manager script is abcHYIP.


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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2007, 04:15:01 AM »

You are the first person I've found that is shooting straight from the hip about These rollercoaster investment program, concider this as a yes, soon as you are ready let me know.

I'm going to make a HYIP that will really have a pot of Gold at the end of the rainbow, and you will be the first I will ask to join, I'll even send you some info on the invention so everyone reading this forum will have someone they trust that knows what is going on...

thx,

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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2007, 04:29:14 AM »

I don't see your rating on  Undecided

http://euforextrade.com

100 days, up to 1.2% daily, principal back
60 days up to 20% monthly, principal back
2007-Fast-Profit-Plan / 60 days

do you think it will last?  All their monitors claim they are paying
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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2007, 04:36:41 AM »

Thank you, I will always support these projects that are based on real business,
so at start I can offer you a support folder for your program on forum and my help with organisation and monitoring service in the future.

Unfortunately this forum is not so popular yet like MMG or Talkgold, so you have to introduce your program to wide audience on the other forums to magnetize more potential investors but a support folder on this forum can be your official forum.

I wish you good luck in your project.

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100 days, up to 1.2% daily, principal back
60 days up to 20% monthly, principal back
2007-Fast-Profit-Plan / 60 days

do you think it will last?  All their monitors claim they are paying


Please open new subject about this program in this folder:

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Here reflinks are not allowed.

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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2007, 05:03:20 AM »


Unfortunately this forum is not so popular yet like MMG or Talkgold, so you have to introduce your program to wide audience on the other forums to magnetize more potential investors but a support folder on this forum can be your official forum.


I joined a forum that grew to over 4 Million readers in the past, I was in the heat of a major battle followed around the world.  I prefer being in a quiet forum but know it will grow quick if anyone from the other group finds out I'm here...    Wink



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« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2007, 05:29:07 AM »

I prefer the quality before the quantity but we need a little more members to discuss Wink
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« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2007, 05:55:18 AM »

well just to give you a hint, it is a missing children forum, my daughter's best friend was kidnapped and murdered a few years ago by a Pedovile...  I was one of the cornerstones of fighting to make the world safer for children.

I want to be sure of what I'm doing before inviting any of them into the world of HYIPs...

and I agree with you Quality coolsmiley is always better than quantity idiot2
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